The manufacturer base in America is being depleted because of a cheaper manufacturing base in China than in America.
What are the long-term consequences of manufacturing being done in China and other countries other than in America?
great video thanksa a lot!!!
debt loop is when a government makes borrowing cheap this makes more money available in the economy to be used for investing etc , when debt is cheap goods become cheap , countries like china suppress their currencies so that their goods can become cheap which allows countries like America to invest in china based on the fact that there is money readily available to be borrowed from institutions to make those investments abroad.
trade balance produce favorable trade parity and when on economic success China will be able to reduce its debt while enjoying most favored nation status as the largest trade partner
does this means that in case anything goes wrong both china and the US suffers the consequences? is there a way where there can be an escape route for china in case there is a break down of the dedt loop
What is a country's manufacturing base mean?
Now that we have a general layout in our minds of
how all of the mechanics are fitting together,
what I want to do in this video is discuss a little bit about
why the different actors would do what they are.
How they could benefit or get hurt from this cycle.
And really, why it's so hard to unwind each of the actors,
why it's so hard for them to unwind themselves from the scenario.
Where I finished off this last video,
I talked about more cash being in American pockets
because of essentially, debt being cheaper,
government can spend more money, lower taxes.
And I said that's more money to buy Chinese products,
but it's in general more money just for Americans to spend on each other.
They might buy each other's houses
or buy each other's services.
So in a lot of ways, it does stimulate the economy.
For any Keynesians out there, the more you spend,
that will stimulate the economy, lower taxes.
For more conservatives, that also can stimulate the economy.
And in general, debt being cheaper, lowers interest rates,
all of these things stimulate the economy.
Now, normally when you're stimulating the economy like this,
and you have all of these factors,
you have the risk of higher inflation.
But remember, inflation, or at least price inflation,
is just the price of all of your goods.
But notice, we're buying more and more cheaper goods,
and interest rates are low.
So to some degree this whole cycle also keeps--
I guess you could say,
the surface growth that the average American consumer experiences
looks very positive
and inflation stays slow,
so we can also save money to buy each other's services.
Now with that said, let's think about
why the different actors want to do this.
So let's think about it from the Chinese perspective.
So if you are China and you're starting off,
you are a real Communist country maybe 30 years ago.
And then you start to have market-based reforms
and you really want to enter the developing world.
But you don't have the industrial base in the late '70s or early '80s
to really compete with the Germanys, and the Americas, and the Japans--
and when I say Americas, I mean United States-- on their terms.
So one advantage of export-led growth is
when you're just beginning to develop, you have a less-developed society,
you have less of an industrial base.
So when you have export-led growth, you can actually build,
you actually will encourage investment in factories
that can go and produce things for the developed world.
And by keeping your currency low--
by artificially keeping your currency low-- and let me be clear.
With just standard free trade, labor costs are going to be cheaper
in a place like China or India that has a lower standard of living.
So there would be just straight-up free trade with no manipulation of currency.
You would have things that would move offshore,
manufacturing and services that move offshore.
But if you super charge it,
if you make it even cheaper to manufacture,
to do business in China,
it'll just accelerate the investment in production in China.
So this export-led growth--let me put it this way.
Artificially suppressed currency--
and this also happened with Japan after World War II--
artificially suppressed currency, and to some degree we wanted that,
because we want to Japan to become intertwined with the United States.
We wanted it to be successful.
We saw what happened to Germany after World War I,
where it was so economically unsuccessful
that it was very easy for a character like Hitler to come to power.
So we learned our lesson.
We said, you know, it's never good for another country
to not have an economic recovery.
So we actually, to some degree, many people think,
encouraged it in Japan.
But anyway, you artificially suppress a currency,
it makes your exports cheaper,
and which then encourages more investment in production at home.
And in this case, when I'm talking about home,
I'm talking about China or Japan.
And more production at home means more investment at home.
If you're producing more in China,
you're going to have to build more factories.
And this means literally more jobs and, to a large degree,
capital for the Chinese people.
More jobs and capital.
And as you become more efficient
and as you go down that development curve,
you'll become more and more competitive over a whole series of industries.
And the idea is, once your people get developed enough,
you will have enough capital at home.
You will have enough of a consumer base at home that
some of this extra capacity can then be turned back to your own people.
That you can then use these goods to sell to your own people
to increase their standard of living.
So at first, you are building washing machines and refrigerators
for the United States and Europe.
And because you're building those washing machines,
those are jobs for Chinese and eventually, once they have enough money,
once there's a critical mass of a middle-class Chinese,
that same capacity could be used to
sell washing machines and refrigerators to the Chinese,
and it would raise their standard of living.
So it builds a manufacturing base and a home market.
Let me put it that way.
So from China's point of view, it looks unambiguously good.
It builds manufacturing base, and a domestic consumer market--
which just means people in China,
once they have jobs and they have capital,
will be able to buy the goods themselves-- and domestic consumer market.
Now where is the negative here?
You could imagine, if you are the developed country that is buying these goods,
they would be cheap to begin with,
but now they're even more artificially cheap.
Well you lose your manufacturing base.
So if you look at it from the U.S. point of view,
you lose the manufacturing base.
And it's very clear that this has been happening,
whether you want to point to Japan or in general,
we've been losing our manufacturing base to other countries.
And some people view this as a good thing.
Some people say, hey, we are further down the development curve.
We shouldn't focus on manufacturing,
since manufacturing always tends to go to
whoever can do it for the cheapest price.
We should focus on knowledge things,
whether it's pharmaceutical industry or the IT industry.
So there's maybe an argument there.
But the other reason why this is maybe compelling to the United States
is its lower costs.
So this looks like a negative, and it is really a negative on some level,
but the one I guess you could call it a superficial positive
is lower cost for American consumers.
So if you're not one of the people who lost their jobs at the manufacturing plant,
and you are the great majority of the rest of Americans,
it seems like a good thing.
Things are cheaper for you,
it's cheaper to buy clothes for your kids.
It's cheaper to buy a car.
It's cheaper to buy a refrigerator.
It's cheaper to buy an air conditioner.
Now the problem is, when and how does this end?
Because this whole cycle that we create,
it might sound good for China.
In theory it sounds good.
You suppress you currency, your goods are cheap,
more production at home, more investment at home,
more capital and jobs eventually,
point that capital, point that investment back at your own home market
and now you are a developed country.
Seems to make a lot of sense,
but it's easier said than done.
In particular, it's not a trivial thing
to make that whole market be as consumptive or as consumer-driven
as maybe some of these developed markets abroad.
The other problem is this whole time,
remember what's happening.
You're just accumulating this mass of, in this case, U.S. dollars
and you're using it to go essentially lend to Americans,
to lend to the government,
and it essentially gets lent to the American people.
And the minute that you stop doing it,
think about what happens.
The minute that you stop, let's not even talk about unwinding this,
let's say the minute that you stop buying dollars,
your currency will inflate and the holdings--
these trillions of dollars of assets-- will drop in value,
because the minute you stop buying dollars,
the currency markets will allow the yuan to appreciate,
the dollar to drop and so stopping buying leads to drop in value.
And that's just if they stop buying.
If they actually ever tried to unwind this situation,
as soon as they start selling these, that would drop the value of
whether you want to call it the dollar or the U.S. Treasuries even more,
and so everything else they're holding
would drop in even more value.
So the whole time, in order to keep their currency propped up,
they've been buying these assets,
they've been buying these dollars.
But the very act of unwinding it will-- I won't say make it worthless--
but it will make the value of their holdings go down dramatically.
So you have a very hard situation for the Chinesese.
It's a hard situation to even get out of.
And it's just as hard for the U.S. because if you think about it,
a lot of people in the U.S. would look at this
and they'd say, hey, this is horrible.
This is why our manufacturing base has gone away
and it is partially true.
And so they'd say hey, let the currencies just do what they will.
No more artificial distortions,
no more manipulation by government.
Let the currencies be freely trading.
But what would happen then to the United States?
The minute that China stops doing this,
stops artificially supporting their currency, or even worse,
the minute they start unwinding all of these dollars that they've accumulated,
what's going to happen?
They're going to start selling U.S. Treasuries,
there's going to be lower demand for U.S. Treasuries
because they're not even buying it, they might be selling it.
Interest rates are going to go up,
long-term interest would go up in the United States.
Now when long-term interest rates go up,
that means that borrowing is harder,
that people will want more interest to lend you money,
that credit card rates will go up
and in general, the entire United States economy will go down.
Why are we in this recession right now?
Because it is harder to borrow.
We were so dependent on cheap debt,
and when that debt got a little less cheap, everything kind of ground to a halt.
That would be even worse
if the Chinese stopped buying our debt and allowed interest rates to go up.
So we are kind of locked in this very perverse cycle,
where although it looks like the Chinese are unambiguously I guess,
benefiting from this, they are accumulating these assets
and the minute that they try to stop accumulating those assets,
the value of those assets are going to go down.
And even though the United States looks like
it's getting their manufacturing base depleted-- and that is true,
it is getting its manufacturing base depleted because of this--
it is keeping interest rates low.
And if you're a politician, you like that.
It makes the overall environment look superficially positive.
I'll leave you there and let you think about this whole situation for a little bit.
In the next video, I'll try to do a little bit of analogy
to think about where all of this might go.
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